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Carbon Monoxide - The silent killer

Brain Adams  
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A new survey reveals half of us do not know how to spot if we are being poisoned by our gas appliances. Also, over half of us have not had our gas appliances checked and serviced recently; putting our families and ourselves in greater danger of being exposed to potentially lethal carbon monoxide fumes.

Every year around 30 people die from the effects of carbon monoxide as a direct result of faulty gas appliances. Exposure to relatively low levels of this highly poisonous gas can cause brain damage or death with children and the elderly at greatest risk. You cannot smell, see or taste carbon monoxide. Symptoms of carbon monoxide poisoning are similar to those of flu and include drowsiness, weakness, headaches, nausea and pains in the chest. CORGI is launching a national campaign together with the Health and Safety Executive to warn people not to mistake the symptoms of fatal carbon monoxide poisoning with flu.

The Transcript

Leanda wants to know: "How big a problem is carbon monoxide poisoning and where does it come from?" 
     

Dr Rob Hicks and Brian Adams said:

 

Brian: 30 people die a year because of carbon monoxide poisoning associated with faulty gas appliances. Carbon monoxide occurs when gas appliances are not working correctly, normally when either there is inadequate ventilation in the room or the flue / chimney is not working properly.

 

Ben wants to know:  

"What are the symptoms a doctor would look out for when diagnosing carbon monoxide poisoning?" 

     

Dr Rob Hicks and Brian Adams said:

 

Dr. Rob: Common symptoms of carbon monoxide poisoning are headache, weakness, fatigue, nausea and vomiting and dizziness - symptoms that are very similar to those cause by common infections such as flu and food poisoning. When severe, symptoms may include chest pain, shortness of breath and loss of consciousness.

 

Jane wants to know:  

"How quickly can the effects of carbon-monoxide poisoning turn into something deadly? Do you have to be exposed for a long period of time?" 

     

Dr Rob Hicks and Brian Adams said:

 

Dr. Rob: How quickly somebody suffers life threatening symptoms depends on the level of exposure to carbon monoxide, and people can be affected very quickly. Long-term exposure to low level of carbon monoxide can also be dangerous and that can result in lung damage, heart damage and brain damage.

 

Lee wants to know:  

"When a gas appliance is faulty - what causes carbon monoxide?" 

     

Dr Rob Hicks and Brian Adams said:

 

Brian: Carbon monoxide is created where the gas used by the appliance is not burnt correctly. Gas is not burnt correctly normally because of inadequate ventilation or problems with the chimney/flue.

 

Ste wants to know:  

"What are other problems that having a faulty gas appliance could create -would your house blow up or catch fire?" 

     

Dr Rob Hicks and Brian Adams said:

 

Brian: Gas escapes usually occur when a gas appliance hasn’t been installed properly. There is a smell added to natural gas so that it is easily identifiable. If you suspect there is a gas escape, turn off your appliances and report the problem to the emergency gas helpline immediately (you can find the number in the yellow pages) Major gas escapes can result in explosions and fires.

This is of course a different issue to carbon monoxide poisoning but another good reason to get your appliances checked on an annual basis.

 

Norman Jenkins wants to know:  

"What about coal or oil fires? Can they cause carbon monoxide poisoning?" 

     

Dr Rob Hicks and Brian Adams said:

 

Brian: Any fossil fuels generate carbon monoxide if they're not working properly. As well as gas, coal and oil it also applies to wood burning appliances. The same issues with ventilation and chimneys/flues apply to these fuels.

 

Franky D wants to know:  

"If there is a leak would you be able to smell it? How do I know if there is a leak?" 

     

Dr Rob Hicks and Brian Adams said:

 

Brian: If you mean carbon monoxide, this is something you can't smell, taste or see and that is why it is called the silent killer.

If you mean a gas escape, there is a smell added to natural gas, so you should be able to notice it.

 

Helen wants to know:  

"How can you check for carbon monoxide yourself in your home? Are there special alarms (like smoke alarms) that you can install?" 

     

Dr Rob Hicks and Brian Adams said:

 

Brian: There are carbon monoxide detectors that you can install yourself, which are easily obtainable at a range of DIY stores. We recommend them only as a second line of defence - it is no substitute for having your appliances checked annually by a CORGI registered installer.

 

Hilary_west_43 wants to know:  

"I have a card type CO detector in my flat, should I badger my landlord to get a electronic mains powered one? It looks pretty ancient." 

     

Dr Rob Hicks and Brian Adams said:

 

Brian: Landlords have no responsibility to provide a carbon monoxide detector. CORGI does not recommend the card type because they are not always reliable and because there is no alarm, so they need to be checked frequently to establish if there is a problem. CORGI recommends the audible British Standard Approved carbon monoxide detectors.

 

Mrs Robinson wants to know:  

"I have a CO detector but it keeps beeping whenever my gas oven is on. Should I be worried about this or is this normal?" 

     

Dr Rob Hicks and Brian Adams said:

 

Brian: If your carbon monoxide detector is beeping, you should get your gas oven checked as a matter of urgency by a CORGI registered installer and don't use it until it has been checked.

 

Mrs O wants to know:  

"How often should you have gas appliances checked and is it just gas appliances? What about coal or oil fired boilers" 

     

Dr Rob Hicks and Brian Adams said:

 

Brian: We recommend that all gas appliances are checked annually by a CORGI registered installer. Our colleagues in the coal and oil industries would similarly recommend an annual check.

 

May Ormond wants to know:  

"Should your Gas supplier offer a free service or do you need to pay to get an expert in?" 

     

Dr Rob Hicks and Brian Adams said:

 

Brian: If you need to get your gas appliances serviced you must use a CORGI registered installer. If you are in rented accommodation, the landlord has responsibility to ensure an annual gas safety check is carried out. In certain circumstances gas suppliers will offer a free safety check and you need to contact your gas supplier to see if this applies to you.

 

Ian wants to know:  

"How much should a service cost? My Grandmother worries about money and I'm sure she cuts corners on these things sometimes because she thinks she has better things to spend her money on! She won't let my parents help and has refused to let Gasmen into her house before now! Can I reassure her that they aren't expensive and are a very good idea?" 

     

Dr Rob Hicks and Brian Adams said:

 

Brian: Your grandmother should obtain quotes from different registered installers. However, she should ensure that her gas appliances are regularly safety checked by a CORGI registered installer to ensure her safety. You can't put a price on life.

We issue an identity card to every CORGI installer and we recommend that you do not let anybody into your home without checking the card. If you want to check that validity of the card with CORGI you can do so by phoning us 0870 401 2606.

Dr Rob: Many older people are wary of letting people they don't know into their homes, so it may be helpful to your grandmother if you or another member of your family or one of her friends can be there during the service.

 

Tricia D wants to know:  

"My local plumber has just quoted me a fortune to service my boiler. Short of just ringing through the yellow pages how do I go about finding a reliable local plumber who also happens to be cheap?" 

     

Dr Rob Hicks and Brian Adams said:

 

Brian: We are the gas safety watchdog and only regulate safety, so we have no control over the costs that installers charge. We do recommend that people shop around for prices and you can get details of local CORGI registered installers either by phoning CORGI on 0870 401 2606 or through our website www.corgi-group.com/safety.

 

Phil wants to know:  

"A mate of a mate guy offered to fit my boiler - how do I check if he is Corgi registered and if he isn't should I let him do it?" 

     

Dr Rob Hicks and Brian Adams said:

 

Brian: You should only let someone do gas work if they are CORGI registered. It is a legal requirement for any business working on gas to be registered with CORGI, so if he isn't registered he is breaking the law. You should ask to see his CORGI ID card when he comes to your home and ring CORGI to double-check his registration.

 

Jackie wants to know:  

"My daughter has a gas heater in her bedroom and has been complaining of headaches recently, what signs of CO poisoning should I be looking for?" 

     

Dr Rob Hicks and Brian Adams said:

 

Dr. Rob: In addition to headaches, common symptoms of carbon monoxide poisoning include dizziness, tiredness, nausea and vomiting. Those with carbon monoxide poisoning often find that these symptoms are worse when near to the faulty gas appliance. For example if your daughter doesn't suffer symptoms when she is outside but does suffer them when indoors and the gas heater is on it is possible that her headaches are being caused by carbon monoxide. It is important for her to seek medical advice about her headaches and to have her gas heater safety checked by a CORGI registered installer.

 

Lucy wants to know:  

"I have a small child and my elderly mother living with me. Why are children and OAPs at greater risk - what damage does CO actually do to the body?" 

     

Dr Rob Hicks and Brian Adams said:

 

Dr. Rob: When inhaled carbon monoxide replaces oxygen in the blood leaving the body starved of the oxygen it needs to function properly. This can result in dizziness, headaches, nausea and vomiting, fatigue and tiredness, chest pains, shortness of breath and loss of consciousness. Tragically each year in the UK around 30 people die of carbon monoxide poisoning. Small children and the elderly are more vulnerable to the effects of carbon monoxide. This is because they are often at home and therefore exposed to greater amounts of carbon monoxide and because they are more susceptible to the effects.

 

A Moderator said:

 

h-c wants to know: "I have recently moved into a council property. Do I need to get the equipment checked or will the council have done this for me already?" 

     

Dr Rob Hicks and Brian Adams said:

 

Brian: If the gas appliances are owned by the landlord (i.e. the council in this case), rather than it being your own, the landlord has a legal obligation to have an annual safety check carried out by a CORGI registered installer and to provide a copy of that certificate to you.

Dr Rob Hicks and Brian Adams said:

 

Thank you for your questions and the interest that you have shown. Please have your gas appliances checked on an annual basis and don't put it off any longer because remember you can't put a price on life.

     
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